for me, sandy hook does an epiphany, sandy hook, who had guns, who kept them asi assume get them in an area -- he got a very powerful weapon and he went out with that weapon and he kill ed with a weapon that had the velocity of which could really rip these -- this was a young man, he apparently knew weapons, he knew how to use weapons, he chose to use them against the most defenseless. here's a question, does government have an obligation to protect those children? i believe we do. >> could you see your way clear to a school security program or to saying, listen, i do think there may be some armed yards at some of these schools? >> of course and there are, 1/3 of the schools in america have school guards. there were two at columbine, they couldn't get to the shooter. and that's the problem with this thing, having school guards really isn't the whole answer. the more you have these weapons, these military style weapons, that with a single slide stock on the ar-15 can be made fully automatic. the minute you have that, in like the sandy hook killer's hands, you have a devastating weapon.